What song are you working on?

You guys! I figured it out! Sit back and relax, especially if you are one of them lip-purser types and still trying to figure things out.
For the last couple of weeks I’ve been practicing the SwallowTail Jig as my first attempt at playing something more complex than happy birthday with clean notes. For most of it, I’ve been struggling and I’d have to re-start playing many times and I’d need to put a lot of effort into pushing air, so much so that after the end of most practice sessions I’d have a sweaty back and need to change my shirt.
To make this video, I’ve had to make countless takes and had many “failed” attempts where a note just wouldn’t work or sound bad. I thought it was “my harmonica” or my lungs were crap or something:

Then, I finally “got” the key and now it’s way more effortless. Y’see, most youtube videos constantly talk about pointing the harmonica upwards. From what I understand, I’m a lip purser and that advice might be for tongue blocking, since I realised when I did the EXACT OPPOSITE everything now clicked,

HarmonicaPurse

I initially assumed when recording the second video that it would sound 2X better. When comparing, there isn’t THAT much difference to the casual listener, but it’s in the consistency and ease - I’m now able to ENJOY playing and it’s way easier to play, like I’m now longer struggling against an invisible wall or something.

After this change, all the “advice” about “not pushing air too hard” finally began to make sense. I found that if I pretend as though my face is numb/tired/lazy this helps relax the muscles, and to overall play the harmonica as if I’m “tired”. Here tired doesn’t mean “out of breath”, just the regular “tired”. Hope this helps someone!

note: for the very last part with the high notes, I’m switching to puckering which still takes effort and this doesn’t apply

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Hey there group! I’m a first time harp player and am looking for some guidance on a song I’ve been learning for my band. Bryan Adams - Open Road (2:10 - 2:26). It sounds like there are only 4 notes in the whole solo with some bends but I can’t for the life of me decipher which key of harp he is playing it on. Could someone help me out with a video or a tab or something? I’m sure the experts on here could figure it out in under a minute. Thanks in advance!

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You are the best @Slim!

I was able to figure out a way to share my audios through my website with your advice, so here go two songs I’ve shared here before that I don’t think could be opened by very many people.

Heart of Gold

Wonderful Tonight

Thanks @Slim !

:sunglasses: :notes:

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I’m not too familiar with the song but get the general rhythm.

@yuriythebest , your comments remind me of one time when someone watched one of my early videos and commented about how hard I seemed to be working. He plays the piano and couldn’t understand why I had to put so much effort into what I was doing.

The short answer is, because I wasn’t doing it right!

If there is one thing I’ve learned over the years, if something sounds wrong, it isn’t the kind of harmonica we are playing or the key, rather our technique. Once we can polish our technique, particularly with playing clean, solid single notes, then we can start to sound halfway decent.

As for angling the harmonica up or down, it can make a difference, particularly in restricting airflow to get bends. But even though it works, it is not as reliable, nor does it sound as good as a nice deep bend coming from deep down in your throat.

For me the single biggest issue is what @Luke preaches from the beginning:

Deep relaxed mouth position and semi-pucker technique pushes harmonica back

Why Your Single Notes Sound Squeaky and Weak

As for your note @brot1987

I can suggest you learn this phrase:

HEY GOOGLE (or Alexa, or Siri, or whoever your personal assistant happens to be)

In what key is the song XYZ by ABC.

The results are usually pretty good but don’t always match each other. This is what a search for Open Road came up with on Tunebat:

Key & BPM for Open Road by Bryan Adams | Tunebat

Another site which has great information, not only on the key of the song, but also the actual notes played, is www.Hooktheory.com. An app I have on my phone is called Auto-Key, which also does a pretty good job at telling you the key.

I listened to the song but am not very familiar with it, not sure what notes are played on the solo, but sounds cool. I’d start with the major scale on a B harmonica, and see which ones sound best, and let 'er rip!!

Rock on!

:sunglasses: :notes:

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Nice Job! I am always working on too many songs at one time, takes me about a year to finally be able to record one. I need to choose one and stick to it.

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Hi HarpinBobbyMcB!
You are exactly on point! I have a second large thread where initially I was having lots of trouble and it turned out I was doing pretty much everything wrong, including the breathing and thought it was my harmonica or something

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The other day I was trying to learn the SONG from the James Bond movie YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE.

After listening to the original song again, I realized I wasn’t doing a very good job, but liked how it sounded, so I wrote these lyrics to the tabs as I hear them. :point_down:



I originally thought I was playing 2nd position on my brand new Marine Band Deluxe in G, but after tabbing it out, it seems to me it is in 1st position.

Little help? :thinking:

Is this in 1st position in G or 2nd position in D? :roll_eyes:

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Very pretty. Heartfelt words. Clear notes. Love the ending

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I’ve been working on ‘If you leave me now’ by Chicago. It’s taken me ages, but I’ve almost got it bedded down. One more tune added to the list.
I would like to be able to play ‘Feels like home’. originally by Randy Newman I think, although many other singers have covered it. I can’t find the tabs anywhere and I don’t think I can learn this one without them. Can any of you play it? Has anyone found the tabs?

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Is this the version you mean? Beautiful song. In F so I’ll try it tomorrow.

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Thanks @toogdog, yes that’s it. There are many versions, but they’re all pretty much the same tune. It is a beautiful song. I would love to be able to play it.

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Check out Jorgen Dahl Moe singing it. If you don’t cry, I’m not talking to you anymore.

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I’m the opposite can’t read tab due to my autism I get confused by numbers much prefer notes. So I learned everything by ear, playing and replaying bits then, humming them to get the feel of the song and then gradually picking out the notes on the harp. Yes, solos are a nightmare of play repeat play repeat. But vocal lines I find pretty simple if you are in the right key and you can hum it you should be able to find the notes… to unfortunately I am unable to play atm as I’ve had an adverse reaction to the Flu Jab, it’s the curse of having one lung. Respiratory problems not being able to breath etc plus I’m bunged up and partially deaf atm too! Very Frustrating :disappointed::disappointed:

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I cant get the key of the Moe versions. The Bonnie Raite version I sent you seems to work on a C harp.
The chorus seems to go something like.
+5 -4 +4 +3 +3
FEELS LIKE HOME TO ME
+5 +6 +6 +5 +6
FEELS LIKE HOME TO ME
+5 +6 +7 -6 +6 +5+4 +5 -4 + 4+4
FEELS LIKE IM ON THE WAY BACK WERE I BELONG
I don’t know the song well enough to get the rest.
If you know it you should be able to noodle it from here.

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Oh Wow, good job Toog. Thanks for taking the time to do that for me. Yes, it does seem to work on a C harp. I will work on it and see how far I can get.

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Thanks again Toog, You have more confidence in me than I deserve. It would have taken me a lot longer than it took you to start me off. I made a couple of changes (based on Dahl Moe) and will keep trying.
5 -4 4 3 4
5 6 6 5 6
5 6 7 -6 6 5 4 5 -4 4 -4

5 -4 4 3 4
5 6 6 5 6
5 6 7 -6 6 5 4 5 -4 4 4

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Thanks Toog. Thats a bit different to what I came up with, trying to transcribe by ear. You are more likely correct. I suppose there’s a Slim chance that some kind and more knowledgeable musician will chime in and help us.

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I like to start out with clean notes and then let them get “dirtier” as the song goes on :wink:

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